well what should it be then? a keychain flash drive? just a block of 1's and 0's? a laser shining through a crystal??
2006-09-25 12:44 am (UTC)
You mistake my complaining for having a better suggestion.
nah, I know you better than that. there really is no good answer.
i choose a laser shining through a crystal, with a mystical gnome.
2006-09-25 06:09 pm (UTC)
See the later comments on the post. "Save" is a concept that only mattered back when storage space was small compared to document size. These days I could save every letter I typed as separate documents for years and years and still not fill up a hard drive.
2006-09-25 01:26 am (UTC)
When I was in high school (I left a year and a half ago,) most people had never heard of USB Drives, and the vast vast majority of people held the floppy as their storage option of preference. I think most never knew there was an alternative. I'm in my 2nd year of college now and I still see a shocking number of people who prefer floppy discs. People who should know better ;)
When I got my laptop, I opted to get it without a floppy drive. I'm a big USB drive fan. Floppy discs annoy the hell out of me. Even so, even though they are obsolete to those most versed in computing, they're still used quite heavily in schools, and among casual users. I think it'll be at least 5 years, and maybe more, before they're left in the dustbin of computing history for good.
This is especially wrong on things like Writely!
Actually.. the save icon on MS Office 2004 for the Mac uses an icon that looks a lot like a Zip disk.
2006-09-25 02:32 am (UTC)
Oooh.. even more apropos!
and the open icon is a file folder; just for fans of mixed metaphors.
For a home appliance where people call their desktop case "the hard drive" ... the floppy disk icon for the "Save" action is probably very appropriate, regardless if people even know what a floppy disk is.
People in third-world countries who have never had the misfortune of eating a McDonalds meal can probably still recognize the brand from a picture of the golden arches.
Mac: Hi, I'm a Mac
PC: And I'm a PC
Mac: I have one toolbar at the top that lets you do everything by clicking on words like Save and Print.
PC: I use legacy icons that are easier to understand like the 3.5 floppy disk and a printer that uses continuous feed paper.
Mac: That's helpful for people that can't read but want to write a document.
PC: Yes, we are just easier to use.
Actually, I still use a 9 pin matrix printer with continuous paper for draft output. Nothing can beat a matrix in terms of cost per page, by an order of magnitude. So be cautious with those "Legacy, trash bin of history" declarations, will you? :)
(and, incidentally, the matrix printer also beats any other tech in terms of noise level :( )
Awh, I was about to comment on the 'print' icon, myself. You beat me to the punch. Yours was more creative, too.
I lose at today.
2006-09-25 06:08 pm (UTC)
"Will the OLPC laptop sent to developing countries inherit this to-them-meaningless icon?"
I'm developing the frontend for the Wiki/Editor application and this is one item that we're actively working on. Since our audience is of people who've never used a computer before, we have to build conventions that'll make sense to them. We're not entirely sure what that's going to be, yet - but it's definitely something that we're working on.
2006-09-25 07:27 am (UTC)
Cool. Thanks for the reply.
The right thing is to abolish "Save" altogether, and use version control instead.
> Does this make any sense to the younger generation(s) of computer users?
Hopefully we aren't far from obliterating the generally idiotic concept of "saving" files at all in "general use" programs. "Export" makes sense, but in normal use the computer should just store whatever I write - and let me do any kind of undo at any time.
With a bit of luck Apple's timemachine thing will make more application developers do this.
2006-09-25 07:26 am (UTC)
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
I was thinking about using that LiveJournal site, but what's this blue thing in a circle that they use for a logo?
2006-09-25 05:39 pm (UTC)
Perhaps it couldn't save something ;-)
Man, I saw the same thing but I didn't know how to save a screenshot. I was looking for the Save button but all I could find was a stupid floppy disk from the early 90s. I threw all those out with my MC Hammer pants.
It does make sense! I even keep a floppy disk drive on my computer. But at 22, I don't think I'm one of the younger generation anymore. Christ, that's frightening.