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Manual Transmission [Jul. 17th, 2007|01:19 pm]
Brad Fitzpatrick
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Things to do/learn in life... an update:
  • ....
  • Scuba
  • Hang gliding
  • Skydiving
  • Motorcycle
  • Sailing
  • Drive a manual transmission car
  • ....
Aaah yea', that was fun. Previous attempts were utter disasters. Motorcycle shifting skills apparently convert quite readily to cars. Hills are easier on motorcycles, though.
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[User Picture]From: denshi
2007-07-17 08:50 pm (UTC)
What else is on the list?
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-17 08:55 pm (UTC)
I actually had it written down somewhere (bored in a long car ride, but had pen & paper), but I never typed it up. It's around here somewhere.
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[User Picture]From: denshi
2007-07-17 09:00 pm (UTC)
My life todo list has only one item: find remainder of todo list. Wait, two: drink coffee.

I'm surprised you haven't sailed yet. All that time in Belize!
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-17 09:02 pm (UTC)
dan_erat and I rented a sailboat in Belize and proceeded to get kicked off of it for sucking so much. Apparently theorizing about the mechanics of sailing over breakfast does not two sailors make.
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[User Picture]From: denshi
2007-07-17 09:21 pm (UTC)
Perhaps you forgot the rum?
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-17 10:04 pm (UTC)
Given that we were in Belize, I can only assume we were already incredibly drunk by that point. Not sure if it was on rum, though.
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[User Picture]From: denshi
2007-07-17 10:17 pm (UTC)
Well, it's either that, sodomy, or the lash as makes a sailor, so prepare properly next time.
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[User Picture]From: thewalkingman
2007-07-17 09:11 pm (UTC)
I still don't know how to drive a stick. It's one of my many shames as a man.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-17 09:39 pm (UTC)
I feel ya. (er, felt ya... :P)
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[User Picture]From: xotiffany
2007-07-18 01:07 am (UTC)
I had no idea you didn't know how to drive a stick. My dad purposely bought a manual for my first truck and that's all I've owned since. I've taught many people to drive them and I could've shown ya. =)

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[User Picture]From: thewalkingman
2007-07-18 05:00 am (UTC)
It makes me feel like the guy in a bad after school special who proclaims "BUT I NEVER LEARNED TO READ!" and then runs out of the room crying.
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[User Picture]From: mtbg
2007-07-18 04:47 am (UTC)
Driving stick and having written a compiler are two of the ways I'm manlier than Pierce Brosnan.
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[User Picture]From: thewalkingman
2007-07-18 05:02 pm (UTC)
not to be a hater or anything, but is being able to write a compiler really a MANLY thing?
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[User Picture]From: radven
2007-07-17 09:33 pm (UTC)
Skip hang gliding and learn paragliding.

Easier to learn, more fun, and LOTS less gear to worry about. You can carry around everything you need for paragliding in the trunk of a small car.

(I even used to carry around my paramotoring gear in my Prius. Paramotoring is like paragliding, only with a motor on your back and no need for a cliff to run off of...)

There is great ridge soaring down in Pacifica too.

- chris
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[User Picture]From: foobarbazbax
2007-07-19 12:11 am (UTC)
I've heard this, too. I've spent some time here in San Diego hanging out at the popular Torrey Pines Gliderport and most of the people there are doing paragliding rather than hang gliding.

Although, iirc, paragliding is less safe and more difficult to learn.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-17 09:57 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I keep meaning to get in touch with him and ask when he's going next.
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[User Picture]From: ydna
2007-07-17 10:00 pm (UTC)
Avast, land lubber. Ye be starting with a small vessel not unlike the Laser. Yar theory and mechanics are all well and good, argv. But like shifting that manual contraption, ye do it without thinking, much like the last round o' grog.

(A Laser and light wind are great for learning. Great tactile feedback for input, quick response, and the ability to quickly right it when you dump it over make it a lot of fun. Even with a small two-handed boat it gets a little sluggish on the feedback where you need to anticipate more.)

Ah, listen to me going on like an old sea dog. Arrr. Heed my words and tharl be no luff in ye sail.
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[User Picture]From: waider
2007-07-17 10:37 pm (UTC)
Funny, I had some americans visit not long ago who commented on my hill starts (stick shift is more the norm on this side of the pond) - basically we're taught (and indeed required) to use the handbrake (aka parking brake) to stopt he car from rolling backwards while hill-starting, in order to avoid having to do the funky heel-and-toe manouevre with the brake and accelerator pedals. Apparently my tourists were not familiar with this technique. I have no idea if this is a general thing, however.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-17 10:50 pm (UTC)
That's what I did on one particularly nasty hill (use the parking brake), but it felt like cheating.
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[User Picture]From: toast0
2007-07-18 12:53 am (UTC)
It felt like cheating, because it is cheating.
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[User Picture]From: waider
2007-07-18 06:22 am (UTC)
See, I really don't understand this. In what way is it cheating to risk rolling into the car behind you and/or burning out your clutch (depending on your technique)? As I say, it's required here, in that if you don't use the parking brake for the hill start on the driving test, you will fail the test. Perhaps it's a naming thing; we call it a hand brake, not a parking brake, and are thus freed from using it solely for parking?
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[User Picture]From: toast0
2007-07-18 06:40 am (UTC)
It could very well be a naming thing. Parking brake is not too bad to use for non-parking... but they're also known as emergency brakes here, and starting up a hill is certainly not an emergency. Also, a lot (some?) of older vehicles have the parking brake as a fourth pedal way over near the driver's door, and that is really not too helpful (release is through a lever on the bottom of the dash... and it's harder to control)
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[User Picture]From: hashbangperl
2007-07-18 10:47 am (UTC)

yeah but nobody actually drives like in tests

I very rarely use the handbrake on hills unless I'm actually parked - usually I use the clutch - never had a problem.

Now I'm driving an automatic and it forces you to use the handbrake - it's been 2 weeks and I'm still desperately missing a manual clutch at busy junctions.
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[User Picture]From: chris
2007-07-17 11:47 pm (UTC)
huh, i don't think i've ever used the heel-toe method for starting on hills. i've always just used the "move your foot really fast" method (or the parking brake method if not rolling back is paramount).

of course, after a good hill start, I can usually smell a little bit of clutch in the air too.
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[User Picture]From: xotiffany
2007-07-18 01:09 am (UTC)
I know this probably isnt' good for the car but I just hold my car with the clutch and gas right as I'm about to go. With the right combo you won't roll back.
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[User Picture]From: chris
2007-07-17 11:52 pm (UTC)
my dad has a small sailboat and we've gone out in the sound. I ran the tiller for most of the time and called out the tacks, so I guess that's sailing. I suppose its trickier when you've got reefs and what not to deal with.
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[User Picture]From: daveman692
2007-07-18 01:19 am (UTC)
I'm down for learning to sail!
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[User Picture]From: foobarbazbax
2007-07-19 12:23 am (UTC)
I'm moving to SF August 1st. I've done some sailing with friends in a Catalina 27 in San Diego and I want to get my ASA certifications. I want to take the Basic Keelboating course before the end of August.

Here's a list of schools in California. I looked at Spinnaker Sailing, which is at Pier 40 near SoMa which is nice, but I've heard their classes rope you into a club membership, which is pricey.

I'm considering OCSC Sailing, which is in Berkley. If anyone is interested in going to classes with me, let me know. I'd like to make a new friend in SF.
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[User Picture]From: antihope
2007-07-18 02:00 am (UTC)
Looks strangely similar to my list.

I'm hoping to pick up a Class M (motorcycle) permit on Saturday.

Went Skydiving about a month ago.

Going to Washington state next month, and have plans to go Hang Gliding.

Did a triathlon, so bought a wetsuit, and decided I should try scuba diving someday.

No major interest in Saillikng, but hey.. such is life.. Learned to drive on a manual car (and glad I did, I can drive any drunk person home).

Other goals:
triathlon (done)
bike tour (do the MS 150 one.. I'm thinking of a solo Portland to Seattle next month)
Iron Man triathlon (the 5-7 year plan)
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[User Picture]From: wasdely
2007-07-18 02:17 am (UTC)
Do bicycle shifting skills convert quite readily to either?

I never learned to drive but sometimes the idea seems enticing...
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-18 03:07 am (UTC)
Do bicycle shifting skills convert quite readily to either?

Not really.

I guess stopping pedaling (or pedaling with low torque) while shifting is kinda like the clutch.

But not really.
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[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2007-07-18 06:04 am (UTC)
It's kinda like RIDING the clutch...
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[User Picture]From: da_zu
2007-07-18 06:30 am (UTC)
I add one more item to my list of differences between Russia and USA: you get driving licence on an automatic transmission car? I thought in all countries it is on a manual transmission, never thought it might be different.. The world turns out to be so diverse =)
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[User Picture]From: xorax
2007-07-18 08:38 am (UTC)
Right now i own my first car with automatic transmission (you saw it:) after two others with a stick. And i can say that i like the stick better. Next my car definitelly will have manual transmission because it's cheaper, more controllable, because it consumes less fuel and because it saves brakes.
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[User Picture]From: anilnaik
2007-07-19 10:57 am (UTC)
I could swear I remember hearing you talk about learning to drive manual on your parents TT....
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[User Picture]From: brad
2007-07-19 04:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah, they let me try once... I pretty much sucked at it. I wouldn't call it "learning".
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From: dan_erat
2007-07-20 02:25 pm (UTC)
I have a promising lead for sailing. It's possible that you'll even get a chance to practice your Russian. I'll let you know if it pans out.
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