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Stereo in the bathroom [Aug. 8th, 2007|05:46 pm]
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I bought an Airport Express recently, not so much for wireless (I already have wireless in the house), but for the AirTunes. (and also now I can have my "FitzPrivate" ESSID, in addition to the existing "FitzPublic"...)

Anyway, now I just regularly play all music on all house speakers from iTunes, playing off mt-daapd on my server.

So when I was in the bathroom just now, listening to the music which followed me from the office, I was trying to remember how I'd hooked up the left & right channels in the bathroom ceiling speakers (2) from my HTD MA-1235 ...

I seem to recall I positioned left & right for the sitter, not the stander, figuring the sitter is going to be there longer and would more appreciate the stereo not being backwards.

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[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2007-08-09 01:20 am (UTC)

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Comment: AirTunes is a neat idea... but functionally useless in the more-crowded cities of the east coast. (Way too much interference. When there's nothing playing you get phone conversations. When there is something playing, you get random static, wild volume variations, and interruptions by other signals.) It's a neat idea, but... there are certain places where I'll stick with (shielded!) cables.

Question: do you actually find mt-daapd to be functionally useful? I found that it craps out (meaning, sends 0-byte streams for some tracks, fails to even present others) around 5000 tracks. I mean, really:

% sudo find /media/music -name \*.mp3 | wc -l
   19933
[User Picture]From: brad
2007-08-09 01:59 am (UTC)

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What are you talking about?

a) AirTunes is a digital signal... you're not going to get static. You'll get a signal or no signal, or it cutting in and out. But not static or phone conversations. Surely you're talking about something totally unrelated.

b) I'm using it over GigE, not wireless anyway.

And no, no problems with mt-daapd. I also have a lot of music.
[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2007-08-09 02:02 am (UTC)

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a) Talking about friends' experience in Brooklyn (which led me NOT to buy one for Phily), and it's the connection between iTunes on a laptop and the AirTunes whence the interference. (I suppose the phone conversations are probably crappy shielding on their stereo equipment, now that you mention it.)

b) With what number of tracks indexed at what depth? Perhaps it's gotten a bit better... but I found it unusable with half that quantity (not very long ago in time; I was still pulling things back off CD-R to the disk array from a backup of a couple of non-redundant drives that failed).
[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2007-08-09 02:11 am (UTC)

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I guess I was also unaware that AirTunes could be fed from an "iTunes" share presented on the wired side, though it only stands to reason.
[User Picture]From: eddie_vedderx
2007-08-09 02:14 am (UTC)

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this one uses a digital signal
& i love it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Sound_System_80
[User Picture]From: eddie_vedderx
2007-08-09 02:12 am (UTC)

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do you even know what a digital signal is?
[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2007-08-09 02:23 am (UTC)

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I'm not sure who you're addressing, and it's a pretty vague term even with context (the several TCP sockets on which this response will be sent to you qualify as "digital signals"), but I believe that I understood brad's meaning and it doesn't change real-world (bad) experience with one of these base stations and interefence in music coming only through it, not from various other inputs attached to the same stereo system.
[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2007-08-09 02:09 am (UTC)

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It's also possible I'm hideously out of date, but google shoves me at firefly these days, which doesn't do much for version checking...
% pkg_info | grep mt-daapd
mt-daapd-0.2.4_1    Multithread daapd yet another Server for Apple iTunes
That does appear to still be the current version in FreeBSD's (where my disk array and, thus, music live) ports...
[User Picture]From: scosol
2007-08-09 02:33 am (UTC)

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> I seem to recall I positioned left & right for the sitter, not the stander, figuring the sitter is going to be there longer and would more appreciate the stereo not being backwards.

Doesn't really matter- as when you'd want the best fidelity in the bathroom there's likely both a sitter AND a stander.
[User Picture]From: dan_lane
2007-08-09 08:07 am (UTC)

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How about a switch on the seat to swap the channels depending on the orientation?

... too much?
From: jzawodn
2007-08-09 04:21 pm (UTC)

Heh...

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That's exactly how I'd have optimized it too. :-)