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Gas [Mar. 8th, 2008|06:28 pm]
Brad Fitzpatrick
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I don't drive my car often, so I don't buy gas often, but I had to fill up the other day.... $76.00

At $3.99/gallon.

I'm enjoying this rise. The sooner it gets to $5 or $10, the sooner people might care?

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[User Picture]From: henry
2008-03-09 02:39 am (UTC)
Only cost me $35 to fill up today (at $3.55). I too welcome high gas prices though, it decreases traffic congestion between my house and the freeway.
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[User Picture]From: altamira16
2008-03-09 02:45 am (UTC)
May you people with the heavy cars and large gas tanks learn faster!
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[User Picture]From: deemon
2008-03-09 02:53 am (UTC)
I hear Russkies will soon establish a work visa program for importing cheap programmers from US
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[User Picture]From: girl_on_a_stick
2008-03-09 02:58 am (UTC)
I mostly agree, but I wonder how it will actually play out, meaning I worry that it'll first hit poor people very hard before the country makes a big change as a whole. Sadly, the people who can most afford to go (more) green with hybrid cars and such are the people who won't notice as much . . .
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[User Picture]From: henry
2008-03-09 05:28 am (UTC)
There's plenty of cheap, non-hybrid cars on the market that can obtain mpg numbers close to the hybrids; I have one and I welcome rising gas prices. The cars that usually disappear first are the SUVs and large trucks with big gas tanks and bigger appetites. Truly poor people don't have cars.
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[User Picture]From: antihope
2008-03-09 03:01 am (UTC)
I may resort to buying a car in a few months if my boyfriend's new job works out. We'll both end up with 20+ mile commutes. I have no idea about cars, but mileage is important to me, so I'm probably going to use this as a reference:

I need to find out how to stick a bike rack onto those cars tho. And I'd prefer a convertible for those lovely days that are so infrequent in Philly. Smartcar looks perty. I want a custom plate, too.. MySUV. I'm sure it's taken tho.

I'm having issues debating getting a new car (that has good mileage) or a used car, which may not include some of the better mileage models that are out now. Trying to do the "right" thing environmentally isn't always easy to decide on.
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[User Picture]From: ghewgill
2008-03-09 03:46 am (UTC)
I thought people would start to care at $2/gallon. That seems so long ago now...
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[User Picture]From: meowpurrr
2008-03-09 04:15 am (UTC)
we're currently on around $8 per US gallon in the UK.
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[User Picture]From: erik
2008-03-09 04:19 am (UTC)
The sad thing about Orange County is that people here CAN afford the gas, but it still drives them nuts, and all they do is end up blaming Democrats more. I'm surrounded by fucking idiots.
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[User Picture]From: chris
2008-03-09 07:54 pm (UTC)
haha, how could you possibly blame dems for rising gas cost?
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[User Picture]From: byron
2008-03-09 05:03 am (UTC)
Cost me $65 to fill up yesterday. I care now. But what can I do? There is no mass transit here. Its all very rural. I have to drive. If they had a solar powered car that would get the job done for me and I could afford I'd buy it.
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[User Picture]From: bostonsteamer
2008-03-10 06:53 pm (UTC)

What you can do

Is it feasible to bike? Carpool?
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From: jeffr_tech
2008-03-09 05:11 am (UTC)
Well if you like that you should come to hawaii! We've had $4 a gallon gas for ages. If you want premium it's $4.15 or so. Doesn't stop idiots from driving enormous trucks with inefficient wheels etc.
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[User Picture]From: ctapnep
2008-03-09 11:39 pm (UTC)
right, with 60 miles coast to coast. When it takes 50 miles just to get to work it's a little different.
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[User Picture]From: gesundyke
2008-03-09 05:12 am (UTC)
These are the days I'm glad I drive a camry.


is that with or without the lil' packet of K-Y?
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[User Picture]From: cinedude
2008-03-09 05:43 am (UTC)
Still a little bit to go to beat last year's inflation-adjusted peak.
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From: pinterface
2008-03-09 06:58 am (UTC)

Crazy Rich Californians!

It's a good thing all you "expensive gas is awesome" nutters live in climates where you don't have to worry about snow and icy roads. Because in places where water freezes and snow falls, vehicles which were built to handle more than dry roads on sunny days come in quite handy. (Even if just in extracting from ditches people who think 4-wheel drive makes them invincible.)

But then, I wish they'd stop plowing/salting roads around here and say "Hey, we have winter here. Buy a vehicle which can handle that.". Of course, I also wish driver's ed taught people how to drive on icy roads--and they don't do that, either.

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[User Picture]From: venado
2008-03-13 01:35 am (UTC)

Re: Crazy Rich Californians!

:) My Honda Accord doesn't have any problem with Midwestern winters but I guess I don't live in the most rural area - not a big city certainly but it's not a farm town.
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[User Picture]From: no_gritzko_here
2008-03-09 07:17 am (UTC)
I've heard, US energy research budget is cut year after year.
Looks like, somebody just enjoys the situation.
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[User Picture]From: solteronita
2008-03-09 08:27 am (UTC)
This post seems a little...hypocritical.
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[User Picture]From: ydna
2008-03-09 09:19 am (UTC)
People can live without cars.
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[User Picture]From: ydna
2008-03-09 09:19 am (UTC)
Amen. Higher gas prices are better than jacking food costs because some fool is trying to turn basic foodstuffs into auto fuel.
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[User Picture]From: herbie
2008-03-09 12:29 pm (UTC)
Higher gas prices mean higher food costs... it's not increasing the demand, but the overhead goes up thanks to all those diesel-powered combine harvesters, tractors, threshers, trucks, etc.

Actually, assuming you're talking about corn ethanol, we're currently paying farmers money not to grow corn - if you want to keep the price of corn the same, just have them grow more of it. On the other hand, the markup of corn is actually, in my mind, one of the few reasons to support corn ethanol, in my mind. Though corn is a renewable resource, the environmental tradeoffs of getting ethanol out of corm make it at best a very-nearly-losing proposition, environmentally speaking.

However, the national corn monoculture is making us sicker, and making our diets worse - livestock is fed corn because it's cheap and fattens them quicker, but they're not good at dealing with cellulose digestion, so they get sick, so we hop them up on antibiotics, which makes for more resilient strains of all kinds of diseases, leading to sicker food, and sicker humans. Even otherwise, corn's extreme cheapness and versatility leads it to be used for sweeteners even when sugar would do, used to make the cheaper grain products, and used to fry our foods. As a result, we have obese kids with nutritional deficiencies like rickets. Not to mention that Ireland already knows what can happen when your entire country gets completely dependent on a single crop.

Raising the cost of corn will have a deleterious effect on the cost of living, which is likely to hit people, especially the poor, hard. However, in the same way raising the cost of oil can help make society at large diversify their fuel sources, higher corn prices can make industrial agribusiness rethink their current, in many ways harmful, practices.

As always, I'll go ahead and take my point out at the knees by saying I don't know whether increasing corn prices will be net good or bad, but there is at least some good that can come from it.
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[User Picture]From: _nezemnaya_
2008-03-09 09:36 am (UTC)
I wonder- how much is that in $ per liter?
'coz if I've calculated correctly - it's less than a dollar. while here, even in a "cheap" newly EU country, it's more than a euro already
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[User Picture]From: herbie
2008-03-10 08:28 pm (UTC)
You didn't quite calculate correctly - it's slightly more than a dollar per liter (like $1.05). However, yes, US gas is much cheaper than in Europe. Petrol costs in India are similarly high, and I'm not sure why that is.
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[User Picture]From: fruit_boy
2008-03-09 09:47 am (UTC)
I've just done the conversion from litres to gallons and from pounds stirling to US dollars......at out pump, petrol (gas) is £1.07 per litre.

This is $8.16 per gallon!!!
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From: nanassi
2008-03-09 09:52 am (UTC)
About $3.15/gallon here in a flyover state. I have about a 20+ mile commute, a great gas mileage little car that I've driven during near blizzards, and I mostly welcome the gas prices.

We *need* proper (European style) mass transit, and we need to rely more on a rail system for moving goods then semi's.

*stops rant about US infrastructure before it's too late*
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[User Picture]From: hughe
2008-03-09 10:52 am (UTC)
1.09 (British pounds / litre) = 8.30748741 U.S. dollars / US gallon

we complain, but we just put up with it... we do have good public transport in most inner-city places though.

Edited at 2008-03-09 10:53 am (UTC)
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From: jonasnuts
2008-03-09 10:54 am (UTC)

I live in Europe

Duh? :)

I wish I could pay $3.99 a gallon.

I pay a lot more. Enjoy your luck :)
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From: tom
2008-03-09 12:29 pm (UTC)
The sooner people might take it to the streets and fire bomb!
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[User Picture]From: jahiel
2008-03-09 09:38 pm (UTC)
It's gratifying to see more and more employers enabling their workers to work in geographically-independent ways, and more and more people finding homes closer to work and/or workplaces closer to home.
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From: seeds_of_peace
2008-03-10 07:16 am (UTC)
I can't wait for hydrogen/full-electric cars to be standard (and affordable to poverty-level me)
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[User Picture]From: daisy
2008-03-10 06:53 pm (UTC)
Speaking of non-renewable resources... Have you decided between the Audi or the BMW yet for your, um, second car?

(eek. sorry. couldn't resist.)
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[User Picture]From: brad
2008-03-10 07:08 pm (UTC)
Hey, I had to do something (daydream) while Whitaker looked at cars.
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