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FreeVote in the news [Oct. 26th, 2000|08:30 pm]
Brad Fitzpatrick
Check out this news article. Watch the video clip. Not too pleasant. Canada doesn't really like the site, it seems. I suppose it's understandable.... the site no longer has a tech support staff because they all quit. *sigh* I hate running websites.... too much upkeep. You can't just make it once and have it work forever like software... and people are always abusing it. So sad.

Who wants a job working at FreeVote making it a better place? The pay is $15/hour.
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[User Picture]From: opalcat
2000-10-26 08:39 pm (UTC)
That steams me. How retarded! Like that site is any different from any other free voting site or forum site or even free email sites. People are gonna discuss what they're gonna discuss, the site they do it on is IRRELEVANT!~
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[User Picture]From: tydel
2000-10-26 08:43 pm (UTC)
Working with FreeVote is always somewhat amusing, but being paid is always a welcomed incentive ... I'd do it.
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From: ahze
2000-10-26 08:45 pm (UTC)
On that page it says
Reynolds High School teacher John
Gray is targeting freevote.com by
contacting companies that advertise
on the site and so far he is getting
results.


what results is he getting?

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[User Picture]From: sunshine_two
2000-10-26 08:55 pm (UTC)
"That's okay if they're using it for fun, or educational purposes, but what if they're logging on to sites like freevote.com where children can vote on surveys about everything from the prettiest girl in school to who you most want to rape".

What am I missing here? A site that is promoting that type of statistical info SHOULDN'T be available to school kids, or any other person.

What has that got to do with Tech support?
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[User Picture]From: sunshine_two
2000-10-26 09:16 pm (UTC)

Re:

Hmmmmmmm.... well maybe I'm still not getting an accurate pic of what the story and the LJ entries are leading to.

As far as I can discern... a person is trying to drive away what pays for the upkeep and maintenance to a portion of the internet that is more detrimental than educational. Take away the money... and you hopefully, eliminate the website. Either that... or they are forced to change their content.
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-10-26 09:16 pm (UTC)

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Promoting it? We're not promoting it... we promote anything BUT that....

The problem is stupid immature kids that come and make the booths. It's the Internet equivalent of writing on the bathroom walls... except at my high school they just took down the stall doors. Now they're trying to take down the website.

What needs to happen is we need to clean the website so regularly that people don't feel the incentive to make booths, or we need to fix the problem at the source (the kids), but that's never going to happen... immaturity isn't really a fixable problem.
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[User Picture]From: sunshine_two
2000-10-26 09:18 pm (UTC)

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.... okay. I understand the problem then.

Yeah.. that makes sense. I didn't understand the background to what you were discussing.

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[User Picture]From: heathers
2000-10-26 09:21 pm (UTC)

Re: sign me up

I'd be willing to help. I've got lots of spare time right now and a decent knowledge of html. I don't know if that translates to the help you need, but I thought I'd offer.

-Heathers
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[User Picture]From: hijinx
2000-10-26 09:55 pm (UTC)

Re: doot

I would suggest having certain key words flag the booth, it would stream line the process of monitoring.

It seems this would be "Big Brotherish" but it's basically what you are doing any ways.
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-10-26 10:00 pm (UTC)

Re: doot

I already do that.... we have a very advanced screening/monitoring system setup, but it requires a human to approve suggested changes/bans ... there are currently no humans to do the "yes"/"no" clicking that's required.
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[User Picture]From: janux
2000-10-27 10:16 am (UTC)

Re:

Oy. I'd be real willing to work on FreeVote to help. I have pretty flexible hours(I'm homeschooled, so I can do it at whatever time of day), I have a good amount of HTML skill. That's about it, but I think I could help make sure stupid kids don't get FreeVote in trouble.
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[User Picture]From: beerhoff
2000-10-26 11:05 pm (UTC)

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"A site that is promoting that type of statistical info SHOULDN'T be available to school kids, or any other person."

What country you from, china? People should be able to put up whatever the fuck they want
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[User Picture]From: muerte
2000-10-26 09:20 pm (UTC)
Sad... That's really sad. It's a site all about voiting, you can't help it if the the mentality of 8th graders pops up (who has the cutest butt), so how can they hold you responsible. Did he even contact you to get some of it taken care of?

Are you going to start filtering/limiting certain topics or subjects. Maybe some moderators are in order, etc. I'd hate to see FreeVote go down because of something dumb like this. Sorry it had to get a bad rap.
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[User Picture]From: chelle
2000-10-26 09:27 pm (UTC)

Ugh, I went to one of the schools mentioned in that news article, its a very typical thing coming from that school, all obsessed on looks and popularity, it doesn't suprise me and really the fact that most of vancouver island teens are involved with that crap doesn't suprise me either.

ps.. I do need a job.. heh.
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From: (Anonymous)
2000-10-26 09:36 pm (UTC)
what does the freevote job consist of? how many hours? do you have to live in the seattle area?

p.s. that is silly that they can 'blame' freevote for what their kids are doing. maybe they should spend more time watching their kids actions, and less time giving you a hard time. this site does not promote 'bad behaviour'. the bad behaviour is already there.

good luck.
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[User Picture]From: josh
2000-10-26 09:37 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I can understand what you're feeling to some extent...

Last year I put an open forum discussion type thinger on joshbowen.com and it became a regular part of life for my entire high school. It, as freevote.com, was abused and turned into a nightmare. When my school found out, I was almost expelled, and talks of court action were in the air. After missing senior prom, writing numerous apologies, and giving lectures on the dangers of the internet, I graduated: All of this for "allowing" or "giving a means to" letting others discuss topics openly on the internet.

My stand: Don't blame the media. It happens openly on a daily basis.

Good Luck, Brad. Keep up the good work.

I'm always available for help if you need it, you know my email address.

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[User Picture]From: steve
2000-10-26 09:57 pm (UTC)
GRRR. That's really annoying. How many advertisers have you lost at this point? And are they still trying to sue you? Technically you're not liable for anything on there but it sounds like some damage control may be coming up.
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[User Picture]From: shuperstar
2000-10-27 02:03 am (UTC)

I'd like to help...

wow, bctv is the news station here in Vancouver..I heard about this story a while back.

I just went to FreeVote.com and to the Teens section, and I found that having votes for the hottest guy/girl from highschools and showing first/last names, etc., is quite disturbing. Too personal to be posted on a public site.

I'd really like to help get rid of this stuff -delete/ban polls that are like that, and monitor the topics. I watched the video clip, and feel that action needs to be taken immediately.

Heather,
blueneptune@hotmail.com
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[User Picture]From: lizard
2000-10-27 10:07 pm (UTC)

Re: I'd like to help...

You think that is offensive? Maybe you should take a closer look at what's on the internet these days. BCTV gave a very biased and unfair report on freevote.com - people will post what they will and if they don't do it on one site, they'll do it on another. And if they don't do it on another, they'll make their own website. Who's going to stop them? Everyone says freevote.com is so wrong for not monitoring every single voting booth, well maybe the parents are the ones who should be monitoring these CHILDREN playing around on the internet.
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[User Picture]From: eli
2000-10-27 06:23 am (UTC)

How Bold is That?

"Surrey school trustee Heather Stillwell is requesting the Minister of Education send a letter to the management of the site and demand they do a better job in monitoring what gets posted. "

Wow, what a fuckin' bold move.

I bet they get a message back that says...

"Thanks for the note! The booth has been suspended. If you come across any other booths that you find offensive, please report them!

Thanks again,
Eli" :-)

I went and checked the site to see just how far behind we've gotten. I stopped working in about July but figured that people had been keeping up w/out me. 1700 abuse requests DAMN. 66 days old. :::sigh:::. I feel compeled to help you out since at least part of the reason it's gone so far south is from the lack of tech support/monitoring. Back to the FreeVote grind :-)
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[User Picture]From: nolegs
2000-10-27 09:54 am (UTC)
15 dollars? Damn you could get mad hoez wit dat. That be like 3 bitches in da back of a nova.
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[User Picture]From: dim
2000-10-28 05:55 am (UTC)
Hey, I want a job, I am tired of working at Old Navy for $8/hour
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[User Picture]From: perigune
2000-10-30 08:57 am (UTC)
Sure, I can help if you need it.
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