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chicken, NAT, procmail [Nov. 26th, 2000|08:19 pm]
Brad Fitzpatrick
Damn it's raining hard out there. I was just over at Blythe's for dinner... she made terriyaki/soy/something chicken and sticky white rice, with garlic and some other stuff. I helped a little, but not much. I did dishes, though!

I also got her desktop computer's internet access working using NAT. Only problem is, NAT32 on her laptop has a 60 minute time out, then you have to start it up again. Are there any good free Windows NAT programs? I hate Windows so much, just because so many stupid things like that cost money.

Oh, I added a new recipe to my .procmailrc that catches a bunch of spam:
    :0:
    * ^Subject:.*              [0-9]
    mail/spam
It checks for a bunch of spaces, and then a number. A lot of spam programs append a bunch of spaces and then a number to the subject so that SMTP servers don't auto-detect their bulk mailing as spam.

I should really switch to maildrop instead of procmail, but I keep putting it off. maildrop looks so much cooler.
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From: ahze
2000-11-26 08:25 pm (UTC)

Windows version?

What version of windows first off?
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-11-26 08:27 pm (UTC)

Re: Windows version?

98, not second edition.
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From: ahze
2000-11-26 08:33 pm (UTC)

Re: Windows version?

hmm.. i think this is what i used to use I think its shareware and the license doesnt die.

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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-11-26 08:42 pm (UTC)

Re: Windows version?

yeah, back in the day my dad and I used to run WinGate, but I didn't know it did NAT now.... cool....
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From: ahze
2000-11-26 10:33 pm (UTC)

Re: Windows version?

make her use linux =)
that will solve her problem really fast..
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-11-26 10:35 pm (UTC)

Re: Windows version?

she's going to... and willingly.

the problem is that the computer she's going to run linux on doesn't have a modem. the working modem is on her laptop running Windows (which she can't put linux on for many reasons)
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From: evan
2000-11-26 08:25 pm (UTC)

procmail

And ESR gets on my nerves, too.
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-11-26 08:28 pm (UTC)

Re: procmail

How could this guy get on your nerves:

ESR

Heheheh.

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[User Picture]From: revjim
2000-11-27 05:27 am (UTC)

Re: procmail

Ahhhhhhh.

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[User Picture]From: jlb
2000-11-26 09:59 pm (UTC)

anti spam recipes

What works for me (and is in fact the only ruleset I use) is to just grab any mail that's not addressed to me, my mailing lists or any other accounts that forward mail to me. Of course, this becomes a bit of a pain if you're on a lot of mailing lists or get a lot of odd mail.

Also of course you have to check and see if any of those are in the cc line.

If someone Bcc's you stuff, you're kinda screwed. But I don't send my spam to /dev/null automatically either, I have a spam folder that I check occasionally.

Anyway, very little spam is actually addressed to you, from what I've seen.
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-11-26 10:03 pm (UTC)

Re: anti spam recipes

yeah, I used to do the same thing... but I also had a "good list" of people and domains I trusted, which didn't get spammified... so I could get some Bcc messages.
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[User Picture]From: tydel
2000-11-27 12:25 am (UTC)

NAT 'n' IMAP

The best Win NAT program I've come across is SyGate. Sygate has all the nessicary features that a person could want in a home connection sharing program and it doesn't require a client-side program (like WinGate, last time I checked). It's not free, but there's always Astalavista ;-)

On a totally unrelated issue, what do you think the best IMAP mail program for Windows is? I don't want to find my Office 2k CD and install all that crap, and Pegasus seemed a little too awkward. Any suggestions?
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-11-27 12:26 am (UTC)

Re: NAT 'n' IMAP

outlook express, sadly.
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[User Picture]From: revjim
2000-11-27 05:29 am (UTC)

Re: NAT 'n' IMAP

I agree with Brad. Outlook Express is actually very good. Runs fast, supports multiple accounts including from addresses, SSL for IMAP and SMTP, digital certificates, secure mail, the whole nine yards.
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[User Picture]From: revjim
2000-11-27 05:34 am (UTC)
I used maildrop for a while. Hated it. At least when I ran it, it was written in perl. And the authors knew that noone wanted to run more than a few invocations of perl at the same time if they could help it. So... they set up a mailfilter spool directory that gets processed every couple of minutes. This is the part that annoyed me, because my mail was never delivered instantly... it had to sit in the queue for 3-5 minutes.

If this has changed, let me know, and I'll switch in a heartbeat. Because writing rules in maildrop is easy as pie compared to procmail.

Another alternative is to run exim as your SMTP server. It has built in a built in mail filtering portion with its own ruleset language. I have never used it, so I cannot account for its ease of use, or lack thereof.
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[User Picture]From: bradfitz
2000-12-01 02:57 am (UTC)

Re: junkfilter

damn, that's exactly what i've been wanting. thank you!
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