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Extensive testing went out of style around the mid 90's.

Oh -- and actually writting REALLY good code, that's been out of style since at LEAST the 80's.

I blame colleges for letting so many graduates think that they are instantly coders.

Real coders are born, not made.

And anybody who got into computers for the money, and not the thrill of writing code -- well -- they're worse than lame. And they probably use AOL. ... *

Good to hear other people saying it.