You can also use some IP tunnel to play people over the 'net without using XBox Live.
2003-04-18 05:48 pm (UTC)
great resource, thanks!
Reasons to get PS2:
Grand Theft Auto.
A majority of the games are now multiplatform.
Friends I know that have all the systems seem to prefer X-Box for ability to copy cd's to hard drive, and save tons of games without memory cards.
Ditto on the controllers, and GTA. Its potentially reason alone to get a PS2. I've never seen a game that made me want to buy an xbox just to play it.
It seems like there are a couple of games I've seen that support widescreen. I've only played THPS4 with network play on my PS2, and it wasn't bad, but I think network play on the PS2 just hasn't got off the ground. Sony just hasn't done much with it and there's not a lot of network PS2 games yet. But really, all they need is one good one and it will take off. I read they are going to start bundling the network adapters soon at the same price point.
Even though the box is pretty popular, you still have to remember that this is a market that Sony has been dominating for years. Their hardware and production is at least a generation ahead, and they are making money on PS2s sold, where the xbox is being sold at a loss to try and establish market share. what that all boils down to is that developers are more inclined to write for the PS2 or for multiple platforms than to do xbox exclusive games. PS2 = better games.
Plus the Xbox is huge.
Xbox live is cool for the voice thing, but online play for any system is just covered with 12 year olds. SOCOM for PS2 has voice for online play.
The networking ability thing is only really cool if you know someone else that has the same system and you can play over the net. I would say get whatever your friends have so you can borrow games, and play online with them.
I can't give educated opinions on one vs the other, since I can't use an XBox for more than ten minutes -- even with the Japanese controllers -- without my hands starting to ache like they did pre-surgery. The XBox has the most non-ergonomic controller I've ever had the misfortune of touching. If you're at all susceptible to RSI, which given your job you probably are, do yourself a favor and get the import controller if you go with the XBox (it's smaller), and restrict your playing to no more than 25 minutes at a time without a 5 minute break.
The PS2 controller, on the other hand, is highly ergonomic -- when I was post-surgery, the physical therapist basically told me "stay home and play playstation games".
Having both an xbox and a ps2, I must say I play the xbox more, because of the HD support. As already mentioned, this is dependant on the individual game, most are 480p, but they are still pretty. Only 1 game that I know of (NBA 2k3 I think) support 720p, but many are still very nice on a 51".
As far as games go, there are a few racing games on xbox, such as Project Gotham (not HD), and Rallisport Challenge. There are also some games due out soon which look very promising (Project Gotham 2 and Midtown Madness 3).
Network play will require you to subscribe to xbox live to play him. This sort of sucks, but it's cheap, and works. The only game I know of to support tunneling is Halo. Either way, the network play on the xbox (live) is 2nd to none. In addition, being able to play 4 people on the same TV for games live Rallipsort, Project Gotham, and Halo is great. This is especially good on a nice big widescreen TV where each person can actually see 'their' screen.
As far as xbox complaints go, a lot of people complain about the controllers for the xbox. I live them personally, but I've got large hands. The S controllers may be more your style. I never liked the PS2 controllers, as they were too small for me. The other big complaint is the library. Granted, it's smaller than PS2, but it is not insignificant, and there are enough to keep you entertained for a long time.
From what you want in a system, the best choice is X-box. Ps2 doesn't realy support hdtv out of the box. X-box does, but only certain games. As for online, xbox already has the modem, where ps2 you have to buy. The upsise most ps2 online games are free, though some you will pay for. Xbox you pay for but, they run broadband only.
Hope this helps.
2003-04-18 05:07 pm (UTC)
2003-04-18 05:08 pm (UTC)
Oh, and: xbox doesn't have any good games. PS/2, IIRC, is the most popular system of all time (I'm trying to find this guy's site but I can't now) and has a good variety and good developer support.
I wouldn't buy either. But that's because if I play video games I don't do anything productive. (I've cut my Halo-playing time down to Friday: on today's two versus two, I got 30 kills and 17 deaths.)
ok, why don't you get them both?
2003-04-18 05:22 pm (UTC)
Xbox, but for reasons that I cant say here.. :)
2003-04-18 05:24 pm (UTC)
If you're really serious about the whole online gaming thing, Xbox is the choice. The headset thing is apparently pretty cool. However, the controllers are clunky (the original controller) or very poorly designed with weird button layouts (the "S" controller), I don't like the fees for Xbox Live, and it's Microsoft. Xbox gets alot of PC-style games and PC ports that I feel simply don't work on a console controller.
Online support for the PS2 is just ramping up now. The system dosen't do progressive scan, but it should support 480i with component cables at least. You won't find many games that do above that. Widescreen support is on a game-by-game basis. Tony Hawk 4 supports it, that's all I know of since that's the only widescreen enabled game I own. Oh, and a few of the crazy Japanese music games. There's really not many widescreen/HDTV units in use just yet, I expect the successors of both PS2 and Xbox will have much better support.
PS2 has a bunch of great driving games. Ridge Racer V, the Gran Turismo series, and the new Auto Modellista
featuring online play are all quite good. The aforementioned installed base is quite
higher than Xbox or Gamecube, so there's lots of developer support behind the unit. Not to mention other
interesting uses for the device. Granted this can be done on Xbox too, but you don't get the support tools and such that Sony does.
I'm quite happy with my PS2, however there are
some Xbox games that make me tempted to get one. Just not quite enough yet.
Whichever system you choose, keep us updated so I can drop by and steal it.
Ahem. If you get bored and need an extra player, let me know! None of my friends have decent games anymore, dammit – and besides, what good is it having Brad in your town when you can't utilize gameage?
The next version of the PS2 (due Real Soon Now) is supposed to support progressive scan. I've been shopping for one of these, too, and I'm more impressed with Gran Turismo 3 on the PS2, though Rallisport Challenge on the XBox looks pretty good.
If you can hang out a couple more weeks, Sony, MS and Nintendo are going to have their big, pre-conference press conferences right before E3, where they usually announce things like price cuts, new models or big, new games.
2003-04-18 07:03 pm (UTC)
No announcement for US or UK release of that PS2 model yet. E3 will tell...
I like the xbox, but I don't play as much as other people...so that's my vote...
So do I. And,I have a Sega CD! I suck. :)