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fun with MySQL [May. 16th, 2003|01:30 am]
Brad Fitzpatrick
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Some do not know the difference between the World Wide Web (a.k.a. applications and servers supporting the hypertext transport protocol) and the Internet (a.k.a. applications and servers supporting TCP/IP network protocols).

It is thus with great pride that I present the new term: InterWeb. It is for the great unwashed masses who couldn't be fucked to figure out the difference between a car and a road anyway.
Heh. I'm a sucker for funny analogies. I think that's why I'm enjoying all of Neal Stephenson's stuff. He's good with amusing analogies.

I bought a MySQL support contract again, since I like to support those guys, and I've had dozens of hard questions piling up to which I couldn't find answers anywhere.

I'm so glad I did.

I've gone back and forth with them all night and I feel like my head is about to explode out of excitement for all the new stuff I've learned.

And for the first time in a week or so, I'm energetic and happy. It's all about learning. Too much repetitive crap and I get into slumpy bored mode.

I have so many ideas now. I feel like I could stay up all night working on them, but I should sleep.

I'll be writing up summaries of everything later.

I just went to microwave a muffin and there was already one in there. (And here I'd thought I just ate the last one really quick...)

[User Picture]From: jwz
2003-05-16 03:52 am (UTC)

but see, that's BS

The original TimBL definition (which I first heard in, like, 93?) is "The World Wide Web is the universe of network-accessible information, the embodiment of human knowledge."

Whoever wrote that thing you quoted seems to think that the "World Wide Web" means "the set of servers speaking HTTP", but that is just completely, totally wrong.

If you waved your magic wand and every HTTP URL turned into an FTP URL, things would work exactly the same (except somewhat slower) since "web" browsers speak FTP as well. If every HTTP URL turned into a Gopher URL, you probably wouldn't even notice the difference.

Even UUCP-transferred USENET and email auto-responders are a part of the WWW. They meet both the "network" and "accessible" tests, though the networks in question may well have multi-day latency.

"WWW" and "Internet" are not synonymous because "Internet" implies TCP/IP, but "WWW" does not.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2003-05-16 04:13 am (UTC)

Re: but see, that's BS

The point is, many people think the Internet can only be used/seen/experienced through a web browser, regardless of protocol.

That's who were making fun of here.

The people who refuse to install an IM client because AOL's "Quick Buddy Express" Java applet is good enough. (even though if they close the window, the applet dies)

Or the people who use webmail exclusively, tolerating banner ads.

Or the clueless/assholes admins at "Internet terminals" in airports/hotels/cafes that only allow web access, or only proxy port 80.
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[User Picture]From: jwz
2003-05-16 04:17 am (UTC)

Re: but see, that's BS

Many people are stupid, and fun to ridicule.

But, when you ridicule them by saying things that are just plain wrong, it's kinda like making a spelling error in a spelling flame!
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[User Picture]From: taral
2003-05-16 02:17 pm (UTC)

Re: but see, that's BS

Rrr... pet peeve. (spelling)
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[User Picture]From: supersat
2003-05-17 07:58 pm (UTC)
I first heard that term on Metallicops. Funny shit.

The sad part is that while I was looking to see if razors were allowed in carry-on bags, I noticed the Transportation Security Administration uses the word "interweb" in some of their URLs, like http://www.tsa.dot.gov/public/interweb/assetlibrary/tsa_ppitems.pdf .
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