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Bittorrent [Oct. 18th, 2003|06:08 pm]
Brad Fitzpatrick
Wow... bittorrent is popular now. You can snag video files of just about any television show nowadays, and most in HDTV. (files via IRC, though)

As is, I watch Tivo-compressed NTSC feeds of Angel and Smallville in letterbox, but then I have my HDTV remove the black bars on top and bottom and stretch the middle back out to the real size. Talk about quality loss.

Any recommendations on HDTV scan converters / video cards? (somehow need to pipe 720p video from a computer into my HDTV....)

Since I don't have an HDTV Tivo [yet?], maybe this is a better alternative. (snag raw HDTV feeds and watch on TV....)

Is it illegal to download something that's coming in over the air anyway? (the HDTV signal is out there... I just have no hardware to save it to timeshift it, which is legal.)

[User Picture]From: joshc
2003-10-18 06:25 pm (UTC)
I don't know about the legality, but another good site is http://suprnova.tk
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[User Picture]From: patrick
2003-10-18 06:36 pm (UTC)
I'm a big fan of bittorrent. I was downloading tv shows for most all of the last tv season. I still have all of 24 season 2 on my computer. it's like 10 gigs or something.
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[User Picture]From: supersat
2003-10-18 07:30 pm (UTC)
From what I can tell, the legality of downloading a complete, publicly-available TV program is still being fought in court. Newmark v. Turner (a case involving the ReplayTV's ability to skip over commercials and send programs to other devices) and MPAA v. RecordTV (which never went anywhere after RecordTV folded) are the closest cases I can find, although back in 2001 a company called ICraveTV.com attempted to stream live US TV to Canadian viewers, but buckled under the barrage of lawsuits.

I believe cable companies here can rebroadcast over-the-air channels without paying a licensing fee to the broadcasters, and rebroadcasting a program over the Internet might fall under the same rules, provided that the entire show is left intact (including local ads). So, it may be legal to download, but only if you get a version recorded off of the Portland station.

Then again, 17 USC 111(b) says that:
Notwithstanding the provisions of subsections (a) and (c), the secondary transmission to the public of a performance or display of a work embodied in a primary transmission is actionable as an act of infringement under section 501, and is fully subject to the remedies provided by sections 502 through 506 and 509, if the primary transmission is not made for reception by the public at large but is controlled and limited to reception by particular members of the public

The question is, is a broadcast by a local network affiliate a transmission to the public at large or just the public in a certain area?

So, I don't think there's a definite answer as to whether downloading TV shows is legal.
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[User Picture]From: greg
2003-10-18 08:46 pm (UTC)
Great point re: legality of swapping stuff that comes over the air anyway. The only way I think it could be even slightly shady is if somebody on the east coast snags a copy of (fill in favourite program) and then puts it available for west coasters, who would get it three hours later.

A friend of mine did get an e-mail from Universal for cease and desist, but he was downloading movies via bit torrent..
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[User Picture]From: brad
2003-10-18 09:03 pm (UTC)
Whoa. Scary that they're monitoring BT.
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[User Picture]From: youngoat
2003-10-19 01:56 pm (UTC)


Finally started watching Angel? Cool.

You're not starting in the middle are you...? That would be like... wrong. ;-]
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