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brad's quick software review [Mar. 16th, 2004|04:06 pm]
Brad Fitzpatrick
screen + gnome-terminal = still a piece of shit

(not sure who to blame, but I'd say gnome-terminal, since it's been on my shitlist for years...)
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[User Picture]From: taral
2004-03-16 04:08 pm (UTC)
I loved gnome-terminal until gnome 2 came out...
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[User Picture]From: clarkk
2004-03-16 04:43 pm (UTC)
All I can say is libzvt redraw bugs... But my experience with those is from Gnome 1.x. I think I've avoided gnome-terminal in Gnome 2.x so far. :-)
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[User Picture]From: scsi
2004-03-16 04:43 pm (UTC)
Screen + konsole = useable.
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[User Picture]From: denshi
2004-03-16 04:50 pm (UTC)
me + beer = sysadminable.
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[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2004-03-16 04:49 pm (UTC)
Your blame is well-founded.

screen works just fine with TERM=vt220, and even TERM=xterm provided Linux isn't involved.
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[User Picture]From: jwz
2004-03-16 05:01 pm (UTC)
Dude, apple2!
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[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2004-03-16 05:01 pm (UTC)

Also...

... note that screen doesn't give a shit, let alone two, about gnome-terminal, konsole, xterm, or eterm. It only cares about the TERM environment variable or, more accurately, what's in your termcap for the value of TERM. (Which is why TERM=xterm and Linux don't mix well; the definition for xterm in various distros' termcap keeps changing. xterm-old might dtRt.)
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[User Picture]From: caladri
2004-03-16 06:23 pm (UTC)
So, for me, using irssi in gnome-terminal in screen (er, swap the last two, I guess), if you use tabs, it will fuck up the redraw badly and screw things up, but without tabs, if no tabs have ever been opened in that window, it works great..
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[User Picture]From: haran
2004-03-16 09:49 pm (UTC)
Is this a stability issue?
At college, on RH8 machines, gnome-terminal would suck up memory and slow to a halt.
However, my laptop doesn't seem to give any problems.
Someone suggested this might have to do with the sub-pixel font anti-aliasing thingy.
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[User Picture]From: scosol
2004-03-16 11:41 pm (UTC)
uhm- aterm?

(tho i use a tabbed wm (fluxbox) that provides the GNOME-Terminal-style tab-fast-switching that I need)
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[User Picture]From: jes5199
2004-03-17 10:31 am (UTC)
if you were using screen, you wouldn't care about tabs
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[User Picture]From: brad
2004-03-17 10:38 am (UTC)
Ah, you know screen. Cool points.

Oh, and Oregon. :-)
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[User Picture]From: scosol
2004-03-17 02:21 pm (UTC)
well exactly- so why use gnome-terminal instead of a lightweight aterm/eterm/xterm?

I can only assume that its because gnome-terminal is being used with it's own internal tabs? (ie: not in "screen" fashion)
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