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famous enough for an encyclopedia? [Oct. 3rd, 2004|11:45 am]
Brad Fitzpatrick
Funny. A thread going on about whether or not myself and some other dude are famous enough to have entries in Wikipedia, or whether they should be deleted:

I don't understand. Why is this clear focus so important? Is Brad Fitzpatrick famous? It seems a waste to throw away information that we know is going to be useful when somebody starts writing about illegal immigration.Vera Cruz


Brad Fitzpatrick was at least the founder of something. He also got over 50,000 Google hits on things he has written and things that have been written about him. Numerous and different sources. So yes, he stays in. --mav


Wouldn't you want to include a reference to Francisco Castro if you were writing an article about illegal immigration? I sure would.

Reference? Simply have the info in an illegal immigration article. There is no reason for this person to have an article. --mav
I love Wikipedia, but I really don't care if I have an entry there.

On one hand, I see their fear that Wikipedia might turn into a lame social networking service by people editing their entries and linking to their friends and basically using it as a webhost for their writings and whatnot....

But on the other hand, you just make rules against it and people will delete it and ruin the fun for the party crashers. Plus legit info on people.... it's not like you're wasting paper, like in a real encyclopedia. Disks get cheaper faster than you can type to fill in the space. Same with bandwidth, but if it's taking bandwidth, people obviously care enough that the information's probably useful.

[User Picture]From: mart
2004-10-03 11:49 am (UTC)

There's actually an entry for me on Wikipedia too, for no real reason. My name was linked from S2 programming language, which is a bit of an unfortunate name since the article is about the style system and not just the language. Mine should probably be deleted, since no-one really has any clue who I am. ;)

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[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2004-10-03 11:50 am (UTC)
Why would Wikipedia through any information away, ever?
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[User Picture]From: grumpy_sysadmin
2004-10-03 11:51 am (UTC)
Ahem. "Throw."
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[User Picture]From: adamkills
2004-10-03 12:00 pm (UTC)
What is/was freevote.com?

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[User Picture]From: brad
2004-10-03 12:27 pm (UTC)
A site where you could create a voting booth on any topic, and let people vote on it, or discuss in a threaded forum the results.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2004-10-03 01:43 pm (UTC)
No. Wikipedia is written by volunteers.

Do you mean about information? That the volunteers would do.

Do you mean about the conflict? No, I found that just clicking around.
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[User Picture]From: dakus
2004-10-03 03:14 pm (UTC)
You are relevant. You are a part of an unfolding history. You aren't just someone's friend being written about, you've played a roll and continue to influence and innovate. I had something longer to say but it seemed boring and all stuff you already new...peace!
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[User Picture]From: robflynn
2004-10-03 08:41 pm (UTC)
Awh! I have not an entry!
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From: jamesd
2004-10-03 11:12 pm (UTC)
Well, nobody was considering suggesting deleting your entry and you definitely pass a sane threshold for notability, having delivered presentations at two professional conferences (or more) in addition your clear success at building things. Of course, there are people with insane thresholds...:)

There are deletion camps in Wikipedia. Some, called deletionists, have a "small Wikipedia" model and seek to delete things which don't pass relatively restrictive content thresholds. Others, "inclusionists", take the general view that it's not paper and if it's insignificant, who will find it and read it anyway? The inclusionists generally agree with your thought that if someone is spending their time to type it in, they think that it has value.

There's talk of a project specifically for people not notable enough for the encyclopedia. Details of intended content still to be decided.
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