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New Homepage [Feb. 13th, 2006|09:04 pm]
Brad Fitzpatrick

New homepage:

(different views logged in vs. logged out)


[User Picture]From: vanbeast
2006-02-14 05:12 am (UTC)
All the widgets on the page look nice, but it's kinda goofy to have fixed-width content and variable-width headers and footers. I dig the stats and the logged-out view is very nice.
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[User Picture]From: perpetualmotion
2006-02-14 07:29 am (UTC)
Ditto to all the above :)
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[User Picture]From: stevieg
2006-02-14 05:15 am (UTC)
Look great! The page while logged out is a great improvement. Kudos to the designer.
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[User Picture]From: killhamster
2006-02-14 05:16 am (UTC)
can't say i'd ever voluntarily choose to link to ohnotheydidnt on the front page.
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[User Picture]From: burr86
2006-02-14 05:17 am (UTC)
I love it! It's so, so, so much better than the previous one. (And our entire support irc channel agrees, so that's a good thing.) I've actually only heard four complaints about it, and they're all relatively minor

1). The word "blog" is used too much
2). Looks off-center in dystopia
3). The 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 text on logged-out is a link that links to nothing
4). Some people don't like the fixed-width nature of the page.

Personally, my only real complaint is that I wish the boxes on the bottom of logged-in w/news would move to the side, so there's not unused whitespace when the news post stretches out the page.

But I personally really love the page. It's so much more ... professionally-done, especially the logged-out version. Nice work!
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[User Picture]From: d4b
2006-02-14 10:47 am (UTC)
I don't think twice is too much for the usage of the word "blog". After all, they need to keep it on the front page to attract search engines, whether or not LJ'ers like the word.
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From: evan
2006-02-14 05:19 am (UTC)

a little bit tipsy so sorta train of thought

the general idea (different logged out v logged in pages) is good.


get rid of "enables". that's corpspeak.
"LiveJournal is a simple-to-use communication tool to express yourself and connect with friends online." says the same thing but more directly. or use "for expressing ... and connecting".

lots of flicker when i mouseover the 12345 links.
if you did this, a good strategy is to render the content into divs offscreen (css left: -1000px) and then pop them in when it's time to show them.
(it flickers even when i move the mouse near a link, back and forth, showing the same text but flickering as i move the mouse.)

too busy in general. think of someone coming to the site for the first time: it's like the yahoo front page or something, there's so much visible that you don't know what to read.

you can get rid of the top menu bar if all the junk is right there on the page. maybe make the top menu bar only appear once you've logged in. will help bring the real content on the front page up higher.

you can put the news on the "now you're logged in" page, 'cause it usually only applies to users anyway and the front page is overfull as is.

(look at e.g. http://odeo.com for a front page that is to-the-point)

the h1 "what is livejournal" feels like powerpoint. the "LiveJournal is ..." text implies the question anyway.

too many lines and boxes surrounding stuff. why make boxes look like they have menu bars if you can't drag them or move them around?

the orange of "create an account" is jarring because there's no other orange except the non-matching orange of the xml button. (one viable solution is to get rid of the xml button -- how many people need that from the front page and can't get to it instead by clicking latest posts first?)

imagine i'm naive (e.g., normal user): when i click on the "music" interest i just see a list of communities -- what does that have to do with music?
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[User Picture]From: kunzite1
2006-02-14 05:43 am (UTC)

Re: a little bit tipsy so sorta train of thought

my experience with opera version 8 for windows includes it really not liking negative numbers for css placement. not such a hot idea for compatibility.

firefox, on the other hand, should do just fine.

although, i've experienced less fun with ie5 for mac as well as safari version 1.

my mac is pretty old and unable to support a newer OS, let alone my being able to cover the cost, so, the learning curve for browsers better not be very steep.
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[User Picture]From: kunzite1
2006-02-14 05:28 am (UTC)

my thoughts can be found here and here.

basically, neat idea, poorly executed.

the page should stretch nicely, or be centered. aligned left leaves too much empty space for people like me running 1280x1024.
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[User Picture]From: bigjimsjazz
2006-02-14 05:37 am (UTC)

I think it's a Big Improvement.

Likes the look both ways.
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From: duffey
2006-02-14 05:51 am (UTC)
I like it. It's not cluttered and it's simple, two things I look for in a good site/homepage design.
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[User Picture]From: pianodude34
2006-02-14 05:51 am (UTC)
Honestly, I LOVE IT! It makes LiveJournal look so much cooler, and sleeker. To take out the "What is LiveJournal?" after you log in is a great idea, I pretty much love it all.

And, the new hit counter for users and posts is really cool. I don't know why, but I get excited over improvements like this. Keep up the great work!
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[User Picture]From: stalk_her
2006-02-14 06:38 am (UTC)
i like it. good job.
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[User Picture]From: adamthebastard
2006-02-14 06:50 am (UTC)

Re: a little bit tipsy so sorta train of thought

When I first saw it I thought of this post from 2005-01-05 regarding the new Six Apart Livejournal beta homepage. It's not nearly that bad but it was my first reaction.

It also looks kinda crappy in elinks and w3m but that's just me nitpicking.
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From: pinterface
2006-02-14 06:57 am (UTC)


I really like the idea of separating content based on the likely needs of the user; however, tables-for-layout and inline styles make me sad. Much like the manage/tags page, it looks positively awful in the lynx site scheme, especially with default colors other than black on white (though the images on the news post guarantee that regardless, and it's a rare website that gets coloring completely right).

More pressingly, Frank gets scalped in the lynx scheme. I can't say for sure, but I expect that's against OSHA regulations.

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[User Picture]From: avatraxiom
2006-02-14 07:14 am (UTC)
The logged-in version is too busy, but I think that might be helped by making it not fixed-width.

I also might say that the logged-out version is too busy. As a new user, it would take me more than a few seconds to decide what I want to do, at which time my attention span would probably have ended. :-)

However, they do both look very nice.

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[User Picture]From: cheesemon
2006-02-14 07:29 am (UTC)
I like the new look a lot -- the one thing that bugs me is that empty space on the right margin below the stats, needs to be filled up somehow, maybe f-list birthdays? I'm guessing front page customizability may be a security problem though. Oh well, looks like this layout will be around till we reach 100 million members. :)

Hmm . . BTW, how come you no longer track data for free, paid, and perm accounts on the stat page?
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[User Picture]From: mart
2006-02-14 07:35 am (UTC)

Users will hate it because it's different!

Doesn't make much difference to me… I never look at that page anyway!

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From: teemus
2006-02-14 07:58 am (UTC)
Awesome, as usual.
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[User Picture]From: scosol
2006-02-14 08:12 am (UTC)
i can't stop mousing over frank, please help
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[User Picture]From: mavi
2006-02-14 08:54 am (UTC)
I love the new page layout, but I hate the word "blog"...blargh!
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[User Picture]From: codetoad
2006-02-14 09:28 am (UTC)
The number's look weird non-antialiased, but I guess it's unavoidable with some of them hitting the gray area there
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[User Picture]From: boggyb
2006-02-14 09:52 am (UTC)
I am impressed. You've successfully resisted the temptation for a javascript pusedo-counter (like in deviantart and gmail), and instead gone for a *real* hit counter.
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[User Picture]From: dottey
2006-02-14 11:19 am (UTC)
Looks pretty darn spiffy to me!

I think I would remove the LJ merchandise box from the not-logged-in page. Who, except for users, would want LJ merchandise? But maybe there is another good reason to have it on the main page.
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[User Picture]From: smackfu
2006-02-14 02:49 pm (UTC)
"Syndicate feeds"?
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[User Picture]From: ihave_themoon
2006-02-14 03:18 pm (UTC)
i dont like it. it seems gaudy to me.
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[User Picture]From: ymf
2006-02-14 11:05 pm (UTC)
thought you might want to give some emphasis to the fact that it's ad-free? i mean, that was a definite draw for me and some of my friends.
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