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Russia, London [Oct. 23rd, 2006|10:59 am]
Brad Fitzpatrick

Sitting in London/Heathrow airport again, this time in the other direction.

Russia was great. It seemed to go really fast. Thank you again to everybody that took care of me, showing me around, driving me around, feeding me, recharging my SIM card when it expired :-), etc....

I chose an ~18 hour layover in London for this leg so I could get some rest and hang out with Simon. Slept at his place last night after hitting a pub where we had some most excellent bar food and several pints of beer.

After not sleeping much for many days in Moscow, last night's sleep was amazing. If you're ever in London and sleep-deprived, I highly recommend the floor of the SixApart-London office. :-)

Not looking forward to this upcoming 10h45m flight (BA287 LHR to SFO). No power in the seat (no cheap upgrade? should go check), and not enough reading material (should go find bookstore).

So I should go find entertainment and get off my ass now, since I'll have plenty of time for sitting on my ass soon here...

[User Picture]From: aca
2006-10-23 11:25 am (UTC)
Although I would suggest the 6Apart London office should come with a health warning. It is anything but good for your liver. :)
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-10-24 01:38 am (UTC)
I liked it very much. The only bad part was too much time away from computers ... perhaps next time less radio and more hacking. :-)
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[User Picture]From: kapibaras
2006-10-23 12:33 pm (UTC)
it was nice to see you here ;)
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[User Picture]From: dan_lane
2006-10-23 12:54 pm (UTC)
Six Apart has a London office?!
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[User Picture]From: deflatermouse
2006-10-23 02:11 pm (UTC)
Sort of. It currently consists of me, a laptop, my dining room table and a lot of O'Reilly books :)
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[User Picture]From: mart
2006-10-23 07:48 pm (UTC)

Heh. I was going to ask the same thing!

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[User Picture]From: ettaetta
2006-10-23 03:47 pm (UTC)
im so happy you are alive! )))
i hope to see weekend pics from moscow
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From: ex_szhap_o_
2006-10-23 04:30 pm (UTC)

Hi, Brad!

Are you informed at all HOW unhappy Russian users are after your promotional visit?
Look at this:


yes -to go with "SUP"
590 (8.5%)

against "SUP"
3 580 (51.8%)

don't know yet
1 389 (20.1%)

I don't care
1 348 (19.5%)

And read, please, - the last entry in Lj_biz

People are simply don't want to be sold to the criminals.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-10-24 01:40 am (UTC)
I'll be the first to admit the press conferenced added more mystery to "What is SUP?" than it dissolved. Some explanation posts to lj_ru_support are coming, to clear up what I hope is all the fear.
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From: msk01
2006-10-24 09:18 am (UTC)
Very sadly, but there are no posts in sup_ru from someone of SUP mafia. This community is now an no-moderated garbage of anti-sup jokes and freaks. Dolboeb (this means "stupid fucker", how are you going to use his nick in public media?) doesn't seem to going to participate in any kind of communication with users. He is wide known in Russian LJ community and lots of people didn't like him before the deal. This isn't a surprise that there are so many protestants against the deal.

Thus, if he started like this, we don't believe him and we don't want him to manage our journals. Please keep us from him in any affordable form.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-10-24 01:27 pm (UTC)
I've requested that sup_ru be cleaned up, to be official posts (or moderated posts) only. We'll work on it.
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[User Picture]From: forgers
2006-10-23 08:26 pm (UTC)

Now that the SUP fades into the distance...

Hey Brad -- now that you're out of the hands of the Nossik Mafia, you should see what brouhaha broke out all around ЖЖ, the Russian LJ.

The shortest summary is that SUP is self-annointed, and neither open source folks, nor Russian authors like that. Nossik is a wildly polarizing personality, not a person one would make a spokesperson for anything. Zasursky managed to threaten a user with legal action. They all exibited condescending manner and unbusinesslike instincts. The US folks mutter "class action."

In order to create a Russian self-governing body of any credibility, a communal process must be established to foster a fair vote/nomination. One sensible proposal is to invite all the so called тысячники -- tysyachniki, from tysyacha == 1000, those who have more than 1000 friends/readers. Subject SUP agreement to a review and respect their advice.

Otherwise, the thing is falling apart. Six apart or more.

BTW, I'll be in SF on one of the coming weekends and would be glad to explain my US-based Russian perspective on what's going on over coffee.

Long live the goat!
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-10-24 01:42 am (UTC)

Re: Now that the SUP fades into the distance...

See my comment above, but in any case: I'd love to meet up with you.
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[User Picture]From: forgers
2006-10-24 01:59 am (UTC)


OK -- I'll e-mail my itinerary, should be one of the coming weekends!
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[User Picture]From: gilrain
2006-10-24 10:39 am (UTC)
Hi, Brad!
Sorry, my English is not so good to explain you the fear of a big part of Russian users about SUP.
Please, take forgers as a voice of a lot of Russian users.
Many thanks!
P.S. I'm happy to know you liked Russia :)
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-10-24 01:27 pm (UTC)
I will work with forgers.
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[User Picture]From: trurle
2006-10-24 11:59 am (UTC)

Re: Now that the SUP fades into the distance...

     Zasursky, acting Chief Marketing Officer, is barkingly mad kind of person. Nosik, while being a respectable personality and generally fine and smart guy, made several outrageous statements in his blog. Financial situation around SUP appears to be really troublesome: the financing they got is so vast that it raises the suspicions of political dimensions. The fact that the money came from government-affiliated sources doesn't alleviate the fears.
      It would be great if LJ/Sixapart would be more open on the issues of Sixapart/SUP deal. In particular, I share concerns of many LJ users over the issues of SUP employees access to LJ servers.
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From: ex_skuns
2006-10-24 11:09 am (UTC)

just to let you know, SA had no right to resell a service based on TOS that has no such unilateral transfer provisions, let alone "monetize" copyrighted content of the bloggers without their prior consent, let alone do racial profiling of the users based on their language, and even if it does so, it should have chosen partners much more carefully (your hosts in Russia are well-known political spin doctors connected to security services, and previously, to organized crime). In a word, you managed to break half a dozen laws in one deal, and trigger a massive PR disaster. We do not hold you personally responsible for that, as you are no longer in a management position, but with a great probability, SA can expect legal action taken against it in US courts.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-10-24 01:31 pm (UTC)
This was my worst fear, that the press conference didn't answer questions about what's actually happening, and has caused more confusion and fear in the community than it solved.

I will work on addressing each one of your points in the coming days ... probably in lj_ru_support, once we clean it up, lock it down a bit so it's less noise, and find me a translator. (I want to build a little community translation widget on the site so easily facilitate multi-language discussions....)

Please, have patience. Nothing is happening between LJ and SUP for quite some time, so I should have plenty of time to convey what the relationship is, and then I don't think it'll sound as scary.
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From: ex_skuns
2006-10-24 04:23 pm (UTC)
Does it mean there is no legally binding contract between you and SUP yet?
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[User Picture]From: bad_kissinger
2006-10-24 07:09 pm (UTC)
I am not much of blogger, I just lurk and giggle at verbal hijinks, but do I have to second what the (very well known and authoritative) LJ-user skuns had to say, as well as the sentiments of forgers.

Russian users are just terribly leery of being sold down the river to a bunch of Kremlin heavies and a very politically and religiously affiliated guy whose nick means "dickhead".

I'll take your word for this all being well-meant and an opt-in, and noninvasive, and an optimization, rather than 'monetization', but as you can see it has all acquired altogether more troubling dimensions - political, ideological and legal.

I advise caution.
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[User Picture]From: poruchik_sr
2006-10-24 09:42 pm (UTC)
Brad, what is so hard to understand? Majority of Russian LJ users do not want to have SUP anywhere near their journals.

You will never understand why it is. Just take our ward as is.
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[User Picture]From: deniskin
2006-10-24 10:53 pm (UTC)

hello , Brad! -)

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