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[insert SUP questions here] [Dec. 19th, 2006|10:09 am]
Brad Fitzpatrick
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Since I can't seem to prevent people from commenting in my journal with off-topic questions about SUP, I hereby designate this post to be the SUP discussion area. So then at least the questions will be on-topic.

And the previous mmap() post is now friends-only.

If you're polite and ask a good question, I'll answer.

If you're angry and just want to fight, please do it elsewhere, not in my personal journal.

So please, ask good questions....

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[User Picture]From: one_more_crow
2006-12-19 06:10 pm (UTC)
Dear Brad,
There are some new url's in my LJ:
LJVAR.imgprefix = "http://stat.livejournal.sup.com/img"
LJVAR.statprefix = "http://stat.livejournal.sup.com".

I suppose that these addresses are relevant to SUP. Am I right?
If your answer is "Yes", can I decline using these servers for my LJ rightnow or ever? I have a paid account and now I don't want to use anything concerning with SUP.
If your answer is "No", why can I see "sup" word in these addresses?

Thank you.

Just in case: I'm not a paranoiac. Upon my life:)!
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From: ex_ex_mcm69
2006-12-19 06:11 pm (UTC)
Can we post off-topic comments here? :-)

Well, as I don't seem to have any particular questions about SUP, let me ask such question:

How large is your ban_list? :-)
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 06:18 pm (UTC)
I think I've only ever banned like 5 people. I don't really use the ban feature... I just don't unscreen stuff if people are being too angry.
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[User Picture]From: darya_curious
2006-12-19 06:23 pm (UTC)

good question ))

What are you waiting from the coming New Year? :)
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 06:26 pm (UTC)

Re: good question ))

I'm too stressed with house problems and work to be looking forward to the holidays. I haven't even done any holiday shopping yet. :(
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[User Picture]From: nick
2006-12-19 06:27 pm (UTC)
SUP homey?
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[User Picture]From: revjim
2006-12-19 06:40 pm (UTC)
Damn! I was going to say that!
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[User Picture]From: moonwick
2006-12-19 06:30 pm (UTC)
Dear LazyBrad,

How do I get tomato sauce off of leather?
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[User Picture]From: grahams
2006-12-19 07:09 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: bad
2006-12-19 06:47 pm (UTC)
Many thanks for mutual understanding! You really the social guru and many people should study at you!
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[User Picture]From: dimrub
2006-12-19 06:52 pm (UTC)
1. As I (tried to) ask in that post: wouldn't it be a good idea to show people (many of whom are, surprisingly) software engineers, a link to SVN that shows where exactly that flag is set and where is it used, so that even the most unbelieving Thomases will be finally persuaded?

2. Are there any news about that bug that showed sup.com links to people all over the globe?
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 07:00 pm (UTC)
1. I personally wouldn't mind making that tagging script public, but it's part of a repo that's private. The sup-eligible flag is set if: your profile's location says you're in one of the 15 ex-USSR countries, your recent posts/comments are 51% or more in Cyrillic, or you browse the LJ site in Russian. This sup-eligible thing was needed early in the deal when SUP said, "Okay, we'll do sales & marketing for LiveJournal, but how big is the Russian/Russian-speaking/etc segment?" And we had to do stats to compute that for them.

2. The bug still exists and I haven't fixed it yet. SUP is angry about it because they're getting shit from users who are blaming them, but it's really my bug. It will get fixed, I've just been busy before the holiday break.
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From: ppk_ptichkin
2006-12-19 06:53 pm (UTC)

Ok, I'lll try again..

Here's my understanding of the whole SUP thing.

6Apart does mark certain accounts eligible for SUP offers. The decision appears to be based on use of cyrillic alphabet for posts/comments. 6Apart does not wish to reveal that criteria, let the owner of the journal to know about this (since you disabled access to the relevant script) or remove that designation.

Is that correct? Are there plans to let the lj users remove that sup flag?

Please understand that I'm not about to question the policy or start a flamewar. I want to make a decision for myself based on correct first-hand information.


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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 07:06 pm (UTC)

Re: Ok, I'lll try again..

See my comment above for the policy on who is SUP-eligible. The criteria isn't a secret, but the code is part of our internal repo, so it's not public. I can ask if I can make public that one tagging script, though.

There's no point in letting users remove the flag, because it doesn't show up anywhere, or change your experience, move your journal, or force you to do anything. It just means, in the future, you can go to sup.com and do extra stuff. It's entirely opt-in. Since you're in the US, there's probably no reason you'd ever opt-in, since using Moscow voice-posting or Moscow SMS integration, etc, are useless to you.

SUP wasn't going to invest time and money into doing sales & marketing for LiveJournal if they didn't know how large their potential market was... that was the point of tagging users, for counting how many people could potentially use their services.
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[User Picture]From: caladri
2006-12-19 07:01 pm (UTC)
When will I be able to fetch LJ posts using SUP?
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[User Picture]From: valiskeogh
2006-12-19 07:18 pm (UTC)
Dear Brad,
How many chickens must i sacrifice to be granted a spot on your friends list?
SideOffer, would you take a sister in lieu of chickens? people say she's a hottie, but i can't start thinking that was as we currently live in alabama and i dont want to fall into the "inbred" trap.

sincerely yours,
Valis Keogh
Valis Enterprises
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From: ex_debgirl0
2006-12-19 11:39 pm (UTC)
you are jealous of me, aren't you valis?
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[User Picture]From: prosto_tak
2006-12-19 07:18 pm (UTC)
Question: honestly, how amazed are you with the whole SUP controversy? :)
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 07:21 pm (UTC)
Now that I know more about Russia, media, power, etc, it all makes sense, so I'm trying to be patient.... if I were a Russian LJ user I'd probably be scared too. The only reason I'm personally not is because I know everything that's going on, and I'm comfortable that everybody will be happy with the deal when they see how it is.

I just wish more information was out there, but I'm so busy working on stuff that I haven't had time to get more information out there. Also because I'm not sure what I'm allowed to talk about, and I think it's not my job to be company spokesperson.
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[User Picture]From: ch
2006-12-19 07:51 pm (UTC)
since i can't check anymore, did my response help you with the mmap problem? maybe you could post a summary.
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 07:55 pm (UTC)
I've decided to just mmap on tmpfs, which is already mounted everywhere anyway.
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[User Picture]From: alachicky
2006-12-19 07:54 pm (UTC)


I just had to laugh at this post. Maybe it will solve it so you can have a regular journal. :( Hope it works.
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[User Picture]From: vdots
2006-12-19 08:13 pm (UTC)
Dear Brad,

the problem is that there are links to the protected post in hundreds places in LJ --- don't you think that screening it really does harm to the connectivity of the information resources? You probably realize now that your collaboration with SUP really influences situation, and that people --- at least those who still want to think that you're able to understand their strong feelings against SUP --- are trying to talk with you :-) I strongly wish you to stay calm and wish you good luck, though the last day made me think again of transferring my blog away from the SUP...

Vladimir Dotsenko
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 08:24 pm (UTC)
of transferring my blog away from the SUP

SUP doesn't have your blog.
SUP doesn't have acccess to the servers were your blog is hosted.
SUP doesn't even have your email address.

So you can transfer away "from SUP" if you want, but you'd really be transferring away from LiveJournal, not SUP.
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[User Picture]From: p0inter
2006-12-19 08:43 pm (UTC)
Is it possible to decline the SUP support and be able to use the Livejournal service provider as before? What if I pay for it?
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[User Picture]From: brad
2006-12-19 08:54 pm (UTC)
You don't have to decline it. It's declined for you automatically to start. (and you don't have to pay... for everybody, paid or not, it is off by default)

Only if you want SUP stuff, then you need to do something.
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